Why employee experience and emotion are key to customer experience success

Panel of marketers and industry experts including eHarmony and Speciality Fashion spy a gap in linking customer engagement to strategic business outcomes, emotional intelligence and employees

Making employee experience as important as customer experience, and linking data to both marketing intelligence and consumer emotion are crucial steps brands must get better at to deliver great customer experiences.  

That was the view shared by panellists at this week’s ADMA Town Hall event, which discussed how organisations develop successful CX programs that build trust, connect with consumers and tap data insight for success.  

One of the charges eHarmony’s marketing director, Nicole McInnes, levelled at marketers is the gap between collecting data and actually using it to drive more CX-oriented decision making.  

“There are lots of metrics to look at… the missing link is pulling that data together with strategic marketing intelligence and consumer behaviour understanding to make an intelligent decision on changing the whole product experience to something that really is customer-centric,” she told attendees. 

“We’re not good at taking the data and changing the whole experience from the way it’s advertised, through every touchpoint. Too often, we’re just tweaking the platform and finessing the product. That’s where CX falls over.”  

For NICE solutions consulting manager, Cameron Adams, a stumbling block is too much focus on transactional data over emotional intelligence. In spite of being data rich in terms of customer touchpoints, a lot of organisations concentrate too much on “unattended areas”, such as Web interactions, he said.  

“Forrester notes there are three important ‘Es’ contributing to customer experience – effectiveness, ease and emotion. Australian businesses on the whole are doing a pretty good job of sorting out the ease of dealing with their organisations and the effectiveness of transactions. But they’re neglecting the emotional element,” he said. “I don’t think there’s enough richness of data into customers’ emotional states.”    

Strativity Group director, Lachlan Austin, suggested marketers quickly gravitate to data because it’s something that’s controllable. “We get comfort in that. But in fact it’s shielding us from the more evolved, difficult and I’d argue more personally enriching process of developing a human connection enabled by such data,” he said.  

“We naturally gravitate towards things that generate a lot of data for us to the detriment of interactions. Which means you end up with this bifurcated view of the world which is a stack of stuff about things that maybe show some moments that matter, but that says almost nothing on the things really making a difference to that customer.”    

Speciality Fashion Group head of customer insights, Kerr Maclean, agreed marketers shouldn’t understate the power of interactions between the customer and human.  

“As much as we get product data, it’s like driving a car and only looking through the rearview mirror,” he said. “You have to unite that [back-end] data together with what the customer tells you. And that comes from team members, what they are buying, complaints and voice of customer feedback.”    

Panellists were also asked whether they thought technology and emerging AI-powered offerings, such as chatbots, could replace or improve human interaction. McInnes pointed out the best algorithms are founded in human insight but cited the ongoing importance of brand and consumer choice.  

Adams believed technology needed to be mixed with human beings to create a true human connection, while Austin advocated a “human veneer” over data.    

“You have to think from the customer’s point of view,” Austin continued. “As a consumer, I’ve never had a desire to be predicted – I have the desire to be valued, understood, empowered and uplifted, however. If you feel like a line of code, you could end up going backwards in terms of CX.”    

Maclean said the higher the value and effort required to make a purchase, “the more technology is an enabler rather than the predicter”. “The higher up Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, the less technology is important,” he claimed.

Linking CX to employee experience  

Panellists were also united on employee experience as the cornerstone of customer experience but agreed this wasn’t getting the focus it deserved. Adams for one, believed too many companies are forgetting to personalise at an employee level.  

“Most Australian businesses are still stuck in industrialised, highly templated set of employee-facing processes and systems and it’s left to manager to build that personalised engagement across the team,” he said.  

At eHarmony, global perks such as unlimited paid leave are done well, McInnes said. But the thing that drives team satisfaction is staff knowing how they contribute to business outcomes in a clear way and understanding where the business is going.  

“Employee experience is about making sure the vision is clear, they are aligned behind that, and then making sure you’re strong enough to say to a people that isn’t, that’s it’s not the right place for them,” she said. “Misalignment within a team is where all that unhappiness occurs.”  

According to Maclean, employee engagement equals customer experience. Austin also claimed there’s no difference, and pointed out a direct and alarming correlation between how little someone is paid and how often they touch the customer.  

“Brand attributes are really the external-facing manifestation of culture, and vice versa,” he said. “If you have any disparity between what customers believe and what employees are delivering in terms of experience, it’s going to go pear shaped straight away. Treat it as a continuum.”  

Follow CMO on Twitter: @CMOAustralia, take part in the CMO conversation on LinkedIn: CMO ANZ, join us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CMOAustralia, or check us out on Google+:google.com/+CmoAu       

 

Join the newsletter!

Or

Sign up to gain exclusive access to email subscriptions, event invitations, competitions, giveaways, and much more.

Membership is free, and your security and privacy remain protected. View our privacy policy before signing up.

Error: Please check your email address.
Show Comments

Blog Posts

Why are we dubious about deep learning?

The prospect of deep learning gives those of us in the industry something to get really excited about, and something to be nervous about, at the same time.

Katja Forbes

Founder and chief, sfyte

Why you can’t afford to fail at CX in 2019

In 1976 Apple launched. The business would go on to change the game, setting the bar for customer experience (CX). Seamless customer experience and intuitive designs gave customers exactly what they wanted, making other service experiences pale in comparison.

Damian Kernahan

Founder and CEO, Proto Partners

Natural born leaders

Many business and marketing managers progressing to leadership positions face evolving their focus from operational matters to strategic decision making and planning.

Jean-Luc Ambrosi

Author, marketer

Do you need a loan to pay off your credit or debit? Do you need financial help to set up your own business? Do you need a loan to carry o...

NORA

Facebook: Friction is costing Australian businesses $29 billion a year

Read more

Thanks for writing about chatbots. Definitely bots have the exciting future when it comes to customer engagement, transactional and conve...

Sanket Nair

7 businesses successfully implementing chatbots

Read more

Interesting article but what about the employees? There needs to be access to quick cash for everyone involved lest we have yet another '...

Joel Pencer

Suncorp outlines customer investments, digitisation as key to business improvement

Read more

Just printed out this Brad Howarth screed to read tomorrow. I need a good laugh once in a while. Or maybe shed some manly-man tears at th...

Larry A Singleton

What a diversity agenda has done for Kellogg's staff and innovation engagement

Read more

Morons. PC Nazis infiltrating and subverting every level in our lives.These scum have destroyed our education system.Read FrontPage Magaz...

Larry A Singleton

What a diversity agenda has done for Kellogg's staff and innovation engagement

Read more

Latest Podcast

More podcasts

Sign in