An in-depth understanding of consumers sits at the heart of what we all need to do, but we know it’s not always easy to uncover insights that will unlock a true innovation opportunity.
For seasoned marketing leader and current vice-president of marketing for Asia-Pacific and Japan at Akamai, Frederic Moraillon, CMO and CIO collaboration is no longer a choice. It’s also not a popularity contest.
“CMOs and CIOs have to work together. It’s easier if they like each other but it doesn’t matter whether they do or not,” he told CMO. “You have to have systems behind it so the personalities don’t impact the business.
“Think of it like a political system and an elected leader versus civil servant. The elected leader disappears, the civil service still works. So you still need to have that baseline still needs metrics, standard operating practices and so on that don’t change even if the people change. If you put two people that like each other that makes it easier, but if not, work still occurs.”
Finding marketing and IT’s common ground
Moraillon has plenty of experience around the IT and marketing divide, having built his career as a marketer across a number of technology vendors covering business intelligence, analytics software, graphics and CRM. For the last four years, he’s been the regional marketing chief for Akamai, which provides technology around content delivery network services aimed at improving Web, Internet, media, mobile and cloud security performance.
During this time, he’s established and managed marketing operations across the region, and helped the organisation expand significantly in Asia-Pacific. His next ambition is to help grow the business threefold in the next five years.
According to Moraillon, today’s modern marketer needs to build knowledge around technology.
“If you are a CMO and not technology savvy, a bit of a geek, looking at the latest tech and different ways of breaking down your own customer and how tech can help you do better, you are behind,” he said.
But that hasn’t meant CMO and CIOs look at technology in the same way. While CMOs focus on what technology does from a utility and outcomes perspective, IT teams have been TCO centric and concentrated on the features and functions of platforms one by one, Moraillon said. In addition, while marketing has been happy to source technology as a service through agency and SaaS partners, CIOs have historically looked to own and secure the technology.
“What needs to happen is for the CIO to realise that of those 1000 functions, only a portion make a difference and the rest is back-end data. CMOs then have to get down from their high horse and understand these 1000 features and find the one that makes most sense,” he said.
“The crossover between the two is where the CIO/CMO will understand each other. And that comes back to how to make money from your customers. The best CMOs have that a revenue focus know technology is needed to achieve it.”
Moraillon advocated using revenue as a shared metric and objective between marketing and IT leaders.
“They can talk the same language – both can talk financial language,” he said. From there, the pair need to collaborate on what activity leads to that revenue generation, then prioritise these as crucial, secondary or nice-to have.”
Technology always comes down to the question of “so what”, Moraillon continued.
“The ultimate goal is what difference it makes. It doesn’t mean if I know about a correlation between people owning dogs and increasing the cup size in the cinema. But if that correlation becomes a segment, then it’s something interesting and I need to come up with a campaign,” he said.
“A CMO will think along those lines and try and define if the information is useful to them. But if it takes one year to develop that system, chances are they have moved on and found an alternative to getting that done. I’m sure most CMOs, if they are blocked by an IT acquisition process, would just work around it by buying a service, as they’re only interested in the output, not the technology.”
So if CMOs and CIOs aren’t working together, who loses the most?
“Chances are, it’s the company,” Moraillon said. “I have used technology without the approval of the IT team because I have disguised it as a service. But the workaround won’t be integrated with my other systems so at the end of the day, the company loses because it’s one step behind. It’s good for meeting a need in Q1, but not long-term.
“Whether the marketer likes it or not, tech will either be an enabler or limiting factor in what they’re trying to do.”
For Moraillon, this kind of technology talk also ultimately leads to an operational discussion where “nobody wins”. Instead, the focus for both CMO and CIO should be on using technology to understand what the customer does and innovating their offering accordingly, he said.
“The more difficult discussion as a marketer is what customer centricity means,” he commented. “As a customer, I am only interested in 3-4 interactions with your company. That customer centricity is one of the hardest concepts to define.
“What I learnt from databases is that I can start understanding what customer centricity means if I look at their behaviour. That for me was the element where the technology defined what the type of marketing I could do – not what I loved to do, but what I was able to do.
“If you can answer the ‘so what’ with data, you will find the innovative product. Otherwise you are just creating something that looks cool, and the days of just creating something cool are long gone.”
As a result, Moraillon has increased the data function within the marketing department over the past 18 months to get ahead of his customers. He said one of the most important capabilities today is social media listening.
“That is what allows us and helps us to innovate, and gain an understanding of what people truly think,” he said. “It’s more important than the SEO I did. I want to know what they’re talking about and how I can have an impact.
“We listen to the market, which allows us to create leads, opportunities and deals, we use it to find out what trends are going on and where the market place is going. That’s something we’re still working on but it’s a big focus.”
Why marketing equals revenue
While the technology might have changed the way marketing is done, Moraillon said the CMO’s focus has and should always be about how to increase revenue.
“I cannot stress the value of the marketer based on that,” he said. “It’s not about marketing strategy or the tools, it’s whether they can find out how to make more money. It sounds very crude, but it’s key for understanding the true value of marketing.
“I have to track back and look at the purpose of the business, which is making money, so what is the impact of marketing to making money. It gives me the freedom not to focus on a set of tools and I can adapt more.”
The two strategies underpinning his approach - push and pull – should also be familiar to any marketer, although Moraillon said there’s increased convergence between the two.
“In 2016, we want to remove the disconnect between brand awareness and demand generation,” he said. “With technology and the ability for people to differentiate sales messages, marketing and content, they look at us as a unified environment. People are searching for us to understand us way before they enter the actual buyer cycle.
“We’re creating an environment where everything we do has an offline strategy around it, and where online could lead to an offline strategy. We want to merge the two so we can adapt to the market we are facing.”
To help, Akamai is using a segment-based approach to both the marketing strategy and function. Moraillon maintains new customer acquisition, existing customer development, channel marketing, product marketing in territory and PR and search across his teams.
What Moraillon agreed has changed is just how much customers can find out before they even talk to a brand.
“Customers are much more aware than before, but in one way or another, they always search before they talk to us,” he added. “Today that’s exacerbated because they can find anything online and importantly, people with experiences in the product they are investigating. We have an ability to talk to peers and people with positive or negative experiences. So you’re getting pros and cons from users, as opposed to the brand.
“That has been a major shift – the knowledge being built up is nothing like we have seen before, and it’s completely uncontrollable.”
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